Red circles are “NO” voters on pro-American public safety bill.

Dalton Daily Citizen

Sunday, February 26, 2018
Opinion
Letters

I write from Marietta to sadly commiserate with other conservatives in the Dalton area. My own state Republican state senator, Kay Kirkpatrick, recently joined Dalton’s Sen. Chuck Payne in voting with the Democrats to kill a Republican bill aimed at reforming the system by which Georgia issues driver’s licenses to illegal aliens.

Astonished or doubtful readers can watch a video archive on the General Assembly website of the Feb. 21 Senate Public Safety Committee hearing on SB 417 and watch as Payne raises his hand to vote “no” with the Dems while the illegal aliens who opposed the bill can be heard literally applauding in the back of the room. ( Here is a link to the official video archive. SB417 presentation begins around 55:20 and the vote begins around 123:20. Use the red button slide on the bottom of the screen. You need to put your cursor near it to see it.)

The state legislation, offered by conservative stalwart Sen. Josh McKoon of Columbus was designed to end the practice of giving a common driver’s license to legal immigrants and illegal aliens, many of whom have been convicted of crimes in the USA and have already been ordered deported. The bill took advantage of the fact that the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) uses a code on the work permits they issue to denote the unlawful immigration status of aliens who have been awarded the permit, in large part, by the Obama administration.

McKoon’s bill would have taken advantage of the in-place USCIS system and changed the illegals’ driver’s licenses so that they were easily recognizable and could not be used as ID to board airliners — as a legal immigrant’s ID is.

Payne is now explaining his join-the-Dems vote by saying he was concerned about the cost of enforcement of the legislation if it became law. Here is where Dalton voters should remember that all laws have a cost of enforcement. And that Georgia has more illegal aliens than Arizona. And that even if the well-known but little understood DACA program ended tomorrow, we will still have illegal aliens in Georgia with the same drivers and ID credentials as legal immigrants. Blurring that line is an insult and a needless public safety risk. What “cost” is too high for Payne?

GOP readers should imagine a primary campaign speech at a Whitfield County Republican meeting in which candidate Payne assures voters that if he is sent back to the Gold Dome he will vote with the Democrats against a Republican public safety bill on driver’s licenses for illegal aliens.

Would you still vote for him?

D.A. King

Marietta

King is president of the Georgia based Dustin Inman Society. He is not a member of any political party.

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Sen. Payne responds:

Sadly, Mr. King illustrates the ever-present obstacle in politics, the driving venture of “want.” For it doesn’t matter if Democrats want or Republicans want. If our efforts are only a pursuit of our want then eventually our want will cripple us all. Maybe it’s time that we seek to set want aside and commit to do the work to achieve responsible and sound legislation that would stand the tests of time. I do strive to maintain a measure of responsibility in discernment, but I’ve learned that the result of want unfulfilled can sometimes bring misguided anger to those who only want. The reason I wasn’t able to join my friend, Sen. Josh McKoon, as he proposed SB 417, was simply due to my understanding in reading through the bill that it would create more government and without any qualifying results to show for it.

In 2012, the Department of Driver Services began printing “LIMITED-TERM” on Georgia driver’s licenses and identification cards issued to those who are not U.S. citizens. In my view, SB 417 would create a whole new arm of state government in the creation of a new method of issuing driving permits to those who are not U.S. citizens. SB 417 establishes that beyond the issuing of Georgia diver’s licenses, the state would take on new enforcement policies for these new “driver safety cards” for those who are not citizens. It is my understanding that the cost and creation of a whole new bureaucracy to enforce these new provisions would come without any warranted difference from what we currently have. SB 417 requires that a person be fined if caught using these new driver safety cards for personal identification, but the costs associated with the enforcement would have to be appropriated later with additional legislation.

Recently, the Legislature moved forward on HB 918, as for the first time in our lifetimes the state will reduce tax rates for individuals and businesses from 6 percent to 5.75 percent, and includes provision to further reduce the tax rate to 5.5 percent in 2020. The question I asked in the consideration of my vote over SB 417 was, “Are we seeking to reduce the size, costs and excesses of state government, or are we creating more government and laws that could be deemed as unenforceable in the end?” As I had promised, I have kept my word that I would read the legislation with an eye of meaningful critique. I simply disagreed with the costs of implementing SB 417 and questioned if this bill would offer any measurable result.

Republican state senator Chuck Payne VOTED WITH THE DEMS AND THE ILLEGAL ALIEN LOBBY

Republican state senator Kay Kirkpatrick VOTED WITH THE DEMS AND THE ILLEGAL ALIEN LOBBY

Why do you think we call it “Georgiafornia?“

Legislation to alter the drivers license Republican-ruled Georgia is giving to illegal aliens with a delay on deportation dies in committee today.

Here is the language of the bill.

Republican-controlled committee kills the bill 5-4 vote. It’s all on video. Archive will be ready tomorrow AM.

**UPDATE: Here is a link to the official video archive. SB417 presentation begins around 55:20 and the vote begins around 123:20. Use the red button slide on the bottom of the screen. You need to put your cursor near it to see it.

When you watch it, you will be able to hear the applause of delight from the illegal aliens in the back of the room.

Republican state senators Chuck Payne and Dr. Kay Kirkpatrick vote with the Democrats to kill public safety bill on illegal aliens drivers licenses. Another, Senator Ben Watson walks out of hearing before the vote. Pro-enforcement bill info here.

Senator John Albers, Chairman. Members here.

Georgia state Senator Josh McKoon watched as two Republican senators voted to kill his legislation that would have insured that illegal aliens do not receive the same drivers license as legal immigrants.

SB 417 was a do-over of a very similar bill that passed the senate in 2016 – by a vote of 37-17 in 2016. The measure did not stop the aliens that USCIS says lack lawful status from driving, it merely changed the design of the card and would not have allowed for federal use, as in boarding airliners or entering federal buildings.

The Chairman could have voted to break a tie, but these two Republicans gave the Democrats and the illegal alien lobby the needed margin.

More later, but expect solicitation for donations to finance qualifying fees for primary opponents for Republican senators Kay Kirkpatrick and Chuck Payne.

Photo of the NO voters as they voted:Red  circles are “NO” voters on pro-American public safety drivers license reform  bill.

Candidate Brian Kemp and his Big Truck for rounding up criminal illegals Photo: The Hill

Dalton Daily Citizen News
January, 15, 2020
OPINION
Letters

Remembering Kemp’s promises on illegal immigration

Gov. Brian Kemp has regularly boasted of his business-first approach to governing and enhancing the climate for corporate profit in Georgia. But the watchdog media has neglected to note the tradeoffs he has made or the trusting conservative voters he has betrayed by ignoring campaign promises.

Surprising few political insiders, illegal immigration seems to have dropped off of the governor’s radar since Election Day 2018.

The left-leaning Georgia Budget and Policy Institute says Georgia is home to more “undocumented workers” than green card holders. The federal Department of Homeland Security says we host more illegals than Arizona.

This, despite state laws passed nearly every year since 2006 to make Georgia inhospitable to illegal immigration. The regulations in place — including the state’s E-Verify laws — would serve the intended purpose if they were actually enforced — or even noted — by Gov. Kemp.

Georgians should realize most illegal immigration is a direct result of illegal employment and must be recognized as the organized crime that it is. Kemp is silent on the entire issue.

“Business friendly” is a term that is counter to “pro-enforcement” on immigration. Dalton conservatives have their own problems in that Republican state Sen. Chuck Payne has pledged his allegiance to the billionaire-funded, anti-enforcement group FWD.us that lobbies in Washington, D.C., and the state Capitol. Payne has described his work with the group as “a moral imperative and a political obligation to my constituents and the health of our country and economy,” according to Georgia Recorder.

Conservative voters who can remember back to the summer of 2018 may recall “Brian Kemp’s Track and Deport Plan,” an extremely detailed campaign promise aimed at illegal aliens who commit additional crimes. “As governor, conservative businessman Brian Kemp will create a comprehensive database to track criminal aliens in Georgia. He will also update Georgia law to streamline deportations from our jails and prisons” went the pledge. We challenge readers to find mention of any of this from the governor — or the Georgia media — since he was elected.

All this is yet another brilliant example of “silence is consent” and will continue until GOP voters find the courage to challenge the governor and the business lobby that has taken over the Gold Dome.

D.A. King

(King is president of the Georgia-based Dustin Inman Society, which advocates for immigration enforcement)

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Image: Twitter/Getty

Mark Zuckerberg’s Group Lobbies Georgia GOP for More Low-Wage Labor

Breitbart News

Mark Zuckerberg’s group of West Coast investors is lobbying the GOP to keep illegal cheap labor flowing into Georgia.

The group’s political progress was spotlighted Tuesday, August 6, when a state GOP politician urged state officials to ignore the huge population of illegal migrant workers and renters in the state, according to a report in the Georgia Recorder:

Speaking at a lunch at Atlanta’s High Museum of Art, state Sen. Chuck Payne (R-Dalton) touted the diverse makeup of the 54th District he represents. Payne estimated his district is 42% Latino. He said many of the Latinos living in the district immigrated 25 years ago and “simply want a better life not only for themselves, but for their children and their grandchildren.”

“The people that I represent are honest, they’re hard-working, seeking to realize the American dream,” said Payne.

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Payne opposed state legislation that would have forced Georgia residents who are not American citizens to obtain driver’s licenses clearly stating that they are not citizens. The measure died in committee in part due to Payne’s vote against it.

Zuckerberg’s FWD.us lobbying group quickly endorsed Payne’s praise of cheap illegal labor:

Immigrants continuously serve as the foundation of our nation’s growth & success. Thank you @Chuck_Payne for supporting @FWDus Georgia office’s two-year anniversary & recognizing the power that comes when immigrants are seen, heard, and able to contribute. https://georgiarecorder.com/brief/state-senator-breaks-with-his-crowd-on-immigration/ …

FWD.us was created by West Coast billionaire investors — including Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg — to preserve the annual inflow of roughly one million new legal immigrants. Investors value the migrants because they reduce the cost of workers and raise overall spending on housing, products, and services such as food delivery.

For example, the group is urging the Senate to pass the S.386 legislation, which would provide roughly 100,000 green cards to Indian graduates (and their families) who take white-collar jobs in the United States at low wages for long hours and are treated poorly. FWD.us has also lobbied for cheap labor in New York and Colorado, as well as in universities.

Payne lauded FWD.us’s hardline approach against enforcement, according to the Georgia Recorder: “The senator described his work with the group as “a moral imperative and a political obligation to my constituents and the health of our country and economy.”

Payne’s statement was also lauded by FWD.us’s lobbyist in Georgia, Sam Aguilar:

We’re proud to help drive smart immigration policy changes in Georgia that make our streets safer, encourage entrepreneurship, and contribute to sustained economic growth across our state. This year, we’re deepening our commitment to bipartisanship by working across party lines in support of access to higher education, and by working with a strong business coalition to identify – and stop – anti-immigrant bills before they hurt Georgia’s economy and our families.

Aguilar described the illegal migrants as Georgians, calling for an amnesty and continued high levels of legal immigration:

All Georgians deserve a government that treats immigrants with respect and dignity, and acknowledges their many financial contributions to our state’s economy and communities. Our long term goal is commonsense immigration reform that implements smart border security, protects and expands existing legal immigration avenues, and provides an earned pathway to citizenship for undocumented people. Expanding our work at the state level will help us to better achieve comprehensive reform, and we believe these policy goals will strengthen Georgia as we continue to demand the immigration changes our country needs.

Before working for FWD.us, the Mexico-born Aguilar worked as a lobbyist for Galeo, an ethnic advocacy group that opposes state-level measures against illegal immigrants, such as state and local participation in the federal 287(g) program.

ICYMI: Last week, Georgia State Senator Chuck Payne joined renowned Atlanta artist @yehimicambron for a discussion of state and federal immigration legislation.

Check out more photos from the event here: https://www.instagram.com/p/B1KF52rAqi_/ #GApol
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See FWD.us’s other Tweets

On August 7, D.A. King, who lobbies for enforcement of state immigration laws, shared FWD.us’s tweeted endorsement of Payne, adding the comment, “This guy is w/o doubt the dimmest bulb in the legislature.”

In response, another FWD.us lobbyist, Jaime Rangel, tweeted a message to King saying, “Stay classy prick.”

Rangel is an illegal immigrant. He got a work permit from President Barack Obama’s 2012 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) administrative amnesty. In May 2019, while working for FWD.us, Rangel wrote:

Recently, I joined the Georgia Hispanic Chamber of Commerce and legislative and community leaders to review the recent state legislative session and strategize for the next. The event included both Republican and Democratic state representatives and members of the media and public. Together, we discussed how we might pass legislation that will grow our economy and revitalize our rural regions. Many of us shared the understanding that immigrants, especially Dreamers, are essential to our state’s success.

I used my spot at the table to suggest two legislative proposals that will increase Dreamers’ participation in the workforce and ensure they continue to contribute to our success. First, state lawmakers should pass a law allowing Dreamers who grew up in Georgia to pay in-state tuition at our public schools.

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Second, lawmakers should not support legislation that will put Dreamers’ driver’s licenses at risk …

Payne declined to respond to questions from Breitbart News. Todd Schulte, the director of FWD.us, also declined to answer questions.

The tacit alliance of business groups, ethnic lobbies, and Democrat politicians is also spotlighted by the debate over Georgia’s role in the 287(g) program, which allows state police to notify federal deportation agencies when illegals are arrested for local offenses.

The state’s Department of Public Safety is required by a 2011 state law to train officers in the 287(g) each year, but it is not on the federal list of trained agencies. Six other law enforcement agencies in Georgia are on the list, including Gwinnett County Sheriff’s Office.

In July, Latino groups tried to exclude King from a public debate over the 287(g) program, which promotes cooperation between federal deportation agents and local police. Galeo opposes the 287(g) enforcement program. Read the rest here

Dalton Daily Citizen

May 24, 2018

Immigration on top of voter’s minds

Jill Nolin CNHI newspapers

Susan McCorkle knew Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle was her guy in the governor’s race when she checked off three things: Conservative, Christian and a firm stance against illegal immigration.

The 67-year-old retiree who lives in Rocky Face was so sure of it that she scooted to downtown Dalton on the first day of early voting to cast her ballot.

McCorkle lives in ruby red Whitfield County, where nearly 71 percent of voters backed President Donald Trump. But the northwest Georgia county is also home to a growing Latino population that includes many young people who are able to remain in the country through the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

“I’m a Christian first and I’m going to treat people with respect. I’m not going to pinpoint somebody and be disrespectful to them, because they’re God’s child,” McCorkle said as she left the Dalton-Whitfield Senior Center, which serves a voting precinct, after finishing a yoga class.

“But I do believe that if you break the law, there’s a penalty for breaking the law,” she said.

The Republican candidates squared off for months over their get-tough views on illegal immigration.

Cagle vowed to heed Trump’s call and send Georgia National Guard troops to the Mexican border. Cagle will be in a run-off next month with Secretary of State Brian Kemp, who said in a political ad that he was ready to personally round up “criminal illegals.”

Aside from pro-gun pledges, talk of tackling illegal immigration dominated the Republican primary. One candidate, Michael Williams, who didn’t break 5 percent in the final vote tally, even went so far as to hit the road with a “deportation bus” that he promised to fill with criminals if elected.

None of this fazed Erin Babb, a 40-year-old Dalton social worker and Democrat who said her daughter attends school with immigrant children.

“It’s not surprising, given what’s coming from the top,” Babb said, referring to President Donald Trump. “It’s just more of the same.”

But one Republican voter, who declined to give her name, said she was troubled by political rhetoric that seemingly lumps all newcomers together — violent criminals and all. The woman said she has developed friendships with the Hispanic members of her church whose status is unknown to her.

But throughout this community, passions on immigration run hot. Many Republican voters interviewed for this story said they were pleased to hear candidates focus on the issue during the primaries.

“A lot of people won’t say it, but I think we’re allowing too many people illegally into our country,” Whitfield County voter Frank Land as he left the Varnell Parks and Recreation Center. “And they’re taking up a lot of our resources through the food stamps and everything like that. I think we’ve got our own people we need to feed.”

Strong feelings on immigration nearly cost state Sen. Chuck Payne, R-Dalton, his seat under the Gold Dome.

The first-term lawmaker drew an opponent who criticized Payne for not supporting a proposal to issue a special driver’s license to those who lack lawful status, such as DACA recipients.

Payne has cited practical reasons for opposing the bill, which he said would needlessly expand government. His lack of support caused the bill to fail in a committee, although the measure later made it out of committee without his aid. It eventually stalled.

The Greater Dalton Chamber of Commerce fought the measure for other reasons. Rob Bradham, who is chamber president and CEO, told lawmakers this session that thousands of DACA recipients live in the northwest Georgia community.

Many of them are on the payroll of some of the Carpet Capital’s large flooring manufacturers, he said.

The state is home to an estimated 21,600 DACA recipients, according to a federal report released last fall. The majority of them — about 15,700 — live in the greater Atlanta area. About 1,500 live in Gainesville. Dalton was not included in the report.

“If you vote for this bill and pass this bill, it will make it more difficult for our employers, who are in a tight labor market as a it is, to employ these DACA recipients who want to be productive members of our community and are productive members of our community,” Bradham told lawmakers at the time.

Payne’s opponent, Scott Tidwell, said… Read there rest here.

Jill Nolin covers the Georgia Statehouse for CNHI’s newspapers and websites.

GALEO Inc. lobbyist Maria Palasios testifies against illegal alien drivers license reform legislation – March, 2018. Photo: Georgia state senate

 Insider advantage Georgia

Lawsuit from former illegal alien, anti-enforcement lobbyist candidate raises questions

May 23, 2018

D.A. King

As IAG Publisher Phil Kent recently noted here, a former illegal alien, Maria Palasios, is suing to reverse a decision from Secretary of State Brian Kemp that she is ineligible to run for a seat in the General Assembly. The story creates several important questions and probably exposes another lie from the Obama administration on the illegal executive DACA amnesty.

In their own coverage of the story, the AJC reports that Palasios “was brought by her parents to the United States from Mexico as an infant without authorization, and she became a U.S. citizen in 2017.”

Exactly how, we should ask, did an illegal alien become a U.S. citizen? Naturalization requires lawful status.

When he rolled out the DACA amnesty during the 2012 presidential campaign, Obama assured the nation: “now, let’s be clear — this is not amnesty, this is not immunity. This is not a path to citizenship.”
It is likely that Palasios was given DACA status, and given the possibility she will be elected to lawmaker status, that should be an integral part of the story. It is also likely that she exploited a process called “advance parole” in which an alien obtains permission to leave the U.S., then reenters with permission – that is to say lawfully. After that there can be a path to a “green card” and to citizenship.

As the Washington Post reluctantly explained in September, according to Senator Charles Grassley and the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, 59,778 DACA recipients had applied for green-card status — and 39,514 had been approved.

Of the illegal aliens who had received green cards, 1,056 had become U.S. citizens as of September, 2017.

It is also quite relevant that would-be lawmaker Palasios is employed by the corporate-funded, anti-borders GALEO Corporation to lobby against immigration enforcement under the Gold Dome. You can see her in action (here 9:07 on the counter) in an official Senate Public Safety Committee video from March lobbying against former state Sen. Josh McKoon’s illegal alien drivers license reform bill that would have stopped the current practice of giving some illegal aliens the exact same drivers license as legal immigrants.

Note: This is the same hearing noted by IAG last month in which Dalton state Sen. Chuck Payne, R-Dalton, asked how McKoon’s bill would be enforced “out of state” before he voted against it. Payne was re-elected in his primary race yesterday.

In the lawsuit Palasios – and the ACLU – claim she has been a “citizen” of Georgia since 2009, which was three years before Obama’s DACA amnesty. It looks like the “New Georgia” may be a place where illegal aliens can be considered “citizens.”

We’ll see.

D.A. King is president of the Dustin Inman Society   Here

Photo: Wikipedia

Insider Advantage Georgia
April 4, 2018

An unhappy pro-enforcement immigration activist reflects on the 2018 General Assembly

D.A. King

When the 2018 General Assembly ended last week, pro-enforcement immigration activists and supporters of official English had no reason to celebrate. By my memory, along with 2012, this was one of only two years since 2006 that no legislation was passed to address the fact that Georgia has more illegal aliens than Arizona. “Historic” indeed.

A look back:

Constitutional official English ballot question: Failed.

“Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to provide that English is the official language of the State of Georgia?”

Despite polling that shows a bipartisan 76% of Georgians favor amending the state constitution to make English the official language of government, voters will not be allowed (again) to decide on the above proposed ballot question in November.

Conservative hero Sen. Josh McKoon’s official English bill, SR587 had a healthy list of co-sponsors and was passed out of the Senate Rules Committee. But it never saw a floor vote.

Smart – and obvious – election year GOP tactics would have been to roll out the legislation, push a floor vote and make it clear all summer that the Democrat “party of the people” would not allow voters to decide on the popular ballot question. But as IAG reported, it seems that at least two Republicans would have been exposed in the process too. No floor vote occurred.

Creating a separate tier of driving and ID credentials for illegal aliens with work permits: Failed

Current administration policy is that “non-citizens without lawful status” are issued the same drivers licenses and official ID Cards as legal immigrants and guest workers with valid, temporary visas. Unlike a growing list of other states (California, Michigan, South Carolina…) that offer options, Georgia has only one tier of these credentials. Georgia’s are issued so as to be accepted as federal ID and are used to access federal buildings, U.S military bases and as valid TSA ID to board airliners.

The United States Citizenship and Immigration Services is quite clear on the status of the illegals with DACA individuals as well as non-DACA illegal aliens with work permits, but the Department of Drivers Services is quietly using the 2005 REAL ID Act language that allows (but does not require) states to issue credentials to these illegal aliens.

McKoon’s well-written remedy, SB 417, died in the Senate Public Safety Committee when two Republicans joined the Democrats in a “no” vote. Later, with only Dalton’s Republican Sen. Chuck Payne voting “no”, the same committee passed out the same language which had been inserted into a House bill. That’s where the new HB258 stopped.

It never came out of Senate Rules. This, despite the fact that an almost identical bill sailed through the GOP senate in 2016 with a 37-17 vote.

The full Senate had a third opportunity to change to driving and ID documents issued to illegal aliens with a floor amendment to the distracted driving bill on Day 39, again offered by McKoon. As IAG reported, that effort failed with eighteen Republicans voting “no” with the Democrats or not voting.

Note: If any reader will kindly point this writer to a mention of any of the above conservative issues in the Republican gubernatorial campaigns, I will happily wash your car.

Graphic as seen on the anti-borders GALEO Inc. Facebook page

SB452 -Requiring that captured criminal illegal aliens be reported to federal immigration authorities and tracking the immigration status and number of non-citizens in the state prison system: Failed
SB452 was widely regarded as a centerpiece, check-the-illegal-immigration-box for Lt. Governor Casey Cagle’s campaign for governor. The immigration enforcement bill died in the final hours of session when Republican Speaker David Ralston refused to call it up for a floor vote.

This writer left the Gold Dome about 3:00 PM on Day 40 after being assured by multiple senior and connected members of House leadership that the legislation would pass on a party line vote and that it was a topic of great importance.

Frantic “Dreamer” members of corporate-funded anti-borders groups literally ran around the third floor of the Capitol desperately begging young Republican lawmakers to vote “no” on reducing the population of criminal illegal aliens in Georgia. They had even scrawled in four-foot tall chalk letters “KILL SB 452” on the sidewalk at the bottom of the Capitol Street entrance.

It should be noted that the scouts for the new Amazon headquarters were in the city that day when readers try to understand how and why a Republican state legislature kills a bill aimed solely at criminal illegal aliens…in an election year.

And it should be long remembered.

D.A. King is president of the Georgia-based Dustin Inman Society     Here.

Republican state senator Chuck Payne. Photo: Senate website.

Chattanooga Free Press

After vote against immigration ID, Georgia state senator faces challenge from right

After opposing a bill to create a separate driver’s license for some immigrants, state Sen. Chuck Payne faces competition in the Republican primary.

Payne, R-Dalton, voted down a bill in the Senate Public Safety Committee that would have created a new “Driver’s Safety Card” for immigrants who hold work permits but do not have lawful status. It would be an alternative to a driver’s license and only last as long as the work permit. They would also say “NO LAWFUL STATUS” and “NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR OFFICIAL PURPOSES.”

With Payne’s vote, the bill died in committee, 5-4, on Feb. 21. He and state Sen. Kay Kirkpatrick voted with three Democrats to kill the legislation. The supporters were all Republicans…. Here.